Description and Keywords

[howsimple]

Hi,
Wondering if anyone can help.

For each of my category, the is an SEO tab that allows you to include Title Meta tag, Description Meta tag, and Keywords Meta Tag. However, it is not working. Does anyone know the code to insert into the CTGY page so the SEO meta tags shows up?

Thanks,
KD

[Brennan]

Re: Description and Keywords

Did you make the page template changes for 9.0004 here:

http://www.miva.com/mm9.4_template_changes.html

Your missing the item tag in your head tag:

<mvt:item name="prodctgy_meta" param="combined" />

[howsimple]

Re: Description and Keywords

Hi,


I did go through the suggested changes for the 9.4 Template changes. The CSSUI: Edit Page: CTGY doesn't have the description tag or keyword tag. I do see <title>&mvt:store:name;: &mvt:category:name;</title>, but it doesn't pull the info. from your SEO tab. I added the <mvt:item name="prodctgy_meta" param="combined" /> you suggested but doesn't work. Under the SEO tab for my Invitations in a Bottle + Scroll category, I added:


Page Title: Send an Message Invitation in a Bottle | HansonEllis.com
Keywords: Message in a Bottle, Wedding Invitations, Invitations in a Bottle + Scrolls
Description: Looking to create a unique event with your own invitation in a bottle? HansonEllis.com has a whole collection for you to choose from. Find your perfect message in a bottle invitation with us today?


But it does not show the meta tag info. See source code at http://www.hansonellis.com/message-i...vitations.html


What is the code to add the Title, Keywords, and Description?


Thanks,
KD

[joseibarra]

Re: Description and Keywords

I can't get the SEO tags to work either - on CTGY pages. It works on PROD pages but not CTGY pages. Yes, the prodctgy_meta Item is assigned to CTGY and PROD pages.

All of our product display pages have meta keywords and meta description but none of our Category pages do (both worked fine prior to the 9.0004 upgrade).

I've had a Support ticket open since last week.

Someone in my separate topic suggested this adding this code:

<mvt:if expr="NOT ISNULL l.settings:product:metafield:keywords">
    <meta name="keywords" content="&mvt:product:metafield:keywords;" />
<mvt:elseif expr="NOT ISNULL l.settings:category:metafield:keywords">
    <meta name="keywords" content="&mvt:category:metafield:keywords;" />
<mvt:else>
    <meta name="keywords" content="SEO: META KEYWORDS" />
</mvt:if>
<mvt:if expr="NOT ISNULL l.settings:product:metafield:description">
    <meta name="description" content="&mvt:product:metafield:description;" />
<mvt:elseif expr="NOT ISNULL l.settings:category:metafield:description">
    <meta name="description" content="&mvt:category:metafield:description;" />
<mvt:else>
    <meta name="description" content="SEO: META DESCRIPTION" />
</mvt:if>

I don't know who came up with that, but if you put that in (instead of the suggested HEAD content change) you end up with this in the HTML:

<meta name="keywords" content="SEO: META KEYWORDS" />
<meta name="description" content="SEO: META DESCRIPTION" />

I looked at the HTML source for some other recently upgraded Miva stores I read about in the community (other problems) and visited their sites and see they have taken that bunch of extra code approach also and they probably think their SEO is working okay, but it isn't. Too bad for them.

[howsimple]

Re: Description and Keywords

Hi,

I found the same info as well and didn't work. The latest MIVA9 update added the SEO tab. However, it doesn't work for the category pages CTGY. The template changes MIVA suggested at http://www.miva.com/mm9.4_template_changes.html does not work as well. Obviously the meta tag variable is missing in the CTGY page. Can somebody from MIVA9 please give us the meta tag variable to insert? I am working with an SEO company and they are waiting for me to update my CTGY pages. Each day that goes by is costing me money. Please help.

KD

[rajnishsi]

Re: Description and Keywords

Hello,

Above code is the same I am using in a dev store, and it's working perfectly, you can see it in action here http://dts2701.mivamerchantdev.com/c...-products.html

If you have added the updated section in your Head tag and have this code there after that, you will surely see those meta fields working on any page. Make sure you have assigned item "prodctgy_meta" item to the relevant pages, in this case CTGY.

[howsimple]

Re: Description and Keywords

Thanks for your help rajnishsi. It worked:)

[joseibarra]

Re: Description and Keywords

The HTML source for one category:

http://dts2701.mivamerchantdev.com/c...y/cycling.html

looks like this for keywords and description:

<head>
<title>Cycling: Miva Test</title>
<base href="http://dts2701.mivamerchantdev.com/mm5/" />
<meta charset="utf-8" />
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" />
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
<link rel="canonical" href="http://dts2701.mivamerchantdev.com/category/cycling.html" />
<meta name="keywords" content="SEO: META KEYWORDS" />
<meta name="description" content="SEO: META DESCRIPTION" />
<link href="../css/css.php" rel="stylesheet" />

Checking several categories on that main link, they keywords and description look the same.

Is that your intent?
Are the fields in the SEO tag populated with something in that category?

That is what I see in several other Miva stores that I looked at from links posted in the community (out of curiosity I checked a few).

If that works/worked it would be a workaround to what appears to be a Miva deficiency on PROD pages.

[rajnishsi]

Re: Description and Keywords

The HTML source for one category:

http://dts2701.mivamerchantdev.com/c...y/cycling.html

looks like this for keywords and description:

<head>
<title>Cycling: Miva Test</title>
<base href="http://dts2701.mivamerchantdev.com/mm5/" />
<meta charset="utf-8" />
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" />
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
<link rel="canonical" href="http://dts2701.mivamerchantdev.com/category/cycling.html" />
<meta name="keywords" content="SEO: META KEYWORDS" />
<meta name="description" content="SEO: META DESCRIPTION" />
<link href="../css/css.php" rel="stylesheet" />

Checking several categories on that main link, they keywords and description look the same.

Is that your intent?
Are the fields in the SEO tag populated with something in that category?

That is what I see in several other Miva stores that I looked at from links posted in the community (out of curiosity I checked a few).

If that works/worked it would be a workaround to what appears to be a Miva deficiency on PROD pages.

You are seeing that because I have not defined any SEO parameter for that category(It's a dev store!). That part "SEO: META KEYWORDS" is the last choice for Miva if both IF conditions above that fails, you can surely use your store name to avoid seeing that. In categories where you have filled those values, they will appear else you'll see your store name in there.

[joseibarra]

Re: Description and Keywords

I'm not sure what the deal is here...

This all worked prior to the last Miva update.

Post upgrade the SEO information that used to be filled in at the bottom of category pages got moved to the new SEO tab and the old data that was in those fields went with it so I thought that would be fine.

Aft the upgrade no SEO fields showed up in CTGY or PROD pages.

I learned later about the code indicated in the template changes into the HEAD section and put that in.

The SEO then fields showed up in PROD pages but not detail pages.

I figured this is a Miva bug since it works on PROD pages but not detail pages. I don't think I should have to add a hunk of SMT code to get the SEO stuff working on CTGY or PROD pages - it should work with the singe line of code specified in the template changes (I think).

I added the block of SMT code indicated and things the SEO showed up twice on PROD pages - once from the template change and once from the new block of SMT code so I took out the single line of template changes and PROD page then looked okay with the SEO stuff only showing up once. That makes sense to see it twice and clearly the PROD page knows about the new SEO fields.

But on CTGY pages it appears the populated SEO fields are not found since I see this only on CTGY pages:

<meta name="keywords" content="SEO: META KEYWORDS" />
<meta name="description" content="SEO: META DESCRIPTION" />

PROD pages look fine. CTGY is processing the SMT code but not "seeing" the populated SEO fields.

I wanted to be sure the prodctgy_meta item was assigned to CTGY and PROD pages but got an error after clicking the Items tab and Miva support fixed that so now I can see for sure that CTGY and PROD both have the prodctgy_meta Item assigned. I even toggled it off an on to be sure it was on.

That detail should really be specified somewhere in the description of how to use the new SEO fields but should be okay since it had to be there before since it used to work.

It appears the CTGY page doesn't know about the new SEO fields so I'm starting to wonder if there is some other Item that needs to be assigned to the CTGY page but there are a lot of unassigned Items on the CTGY page so which one might it be and why would I have to assign something else if it worked before and why doesn't it say that somewhere in the Miva documentation about the new SEO items (unless I missed it).

Shouldn't it really just work fine with just the one line of HEAD content change and not need that hunk of SMT code and why does that one HEAD template change work on PROD pages but not on CTGY pages? It that a Miva bug or is it a Miva feature?

I'm sure it must be something small and silly and obvious to everybody else but it is not obvious to me!

The S

[Brennan]

Re: Description and Keywords

Can you send me access to your admin? I want to take a look at what you have setup.

[joseibarra]

Re: Description and Keywords

emailed you the details (2 emails)

I'm sure I'm gonna cuss later - whatever it is.

[Brennan]

Re: Description and Keywords

I was able to get to the bottom of this. There is a bug in the new meta tag functionality related to MMUI on the CTGY page. Meta tags will not get displayed on the category page until we fix this.

If you want a work around, toolkit has a function to pull meta tags called categorymeta which can temporarily be used to pull in your meta tags on the Category Page.

[joseibarra]

Re: Description and Keywords

Thank you for investigating and responding.

Wouldn't it be a blessing for Mivites like me if the VP Developer Relations for Miva would actually provide the correct and tested code that constitutes the workaround for the Miva programming oversite instead of just suggesting that there is a workaround?

A requirement for the workaround would of course be the toolkit which we have.

Provide us with the exact symptoms of the problem, the workaround code to copy paste into our store, tell us where to put it, how to put it, how to etc. and what to expect as a result. Everything we need in one read.

That way, anybody who has the problem would be able to take that code and apply it to their store and know that it has been tested and verified to work.

If we put that code in the HEAD section we would need to be sure that it only applies to the CTGY page and not the PROD page since I think that would make the SEO tags show up twice (if Miva works on the PROD page) or would the workaround code just replace the one line of code suggested int the Template Changes topic?

If this is going to end up in the Bug Reports thread, provide a link so we can navigate right to the one stop solution.

Is the suggested code from rajnishsi an appropriate work around and if it is why does that not work for me but another Miva user said it worked for them? The code from rajnishsi seems to work on PROD pages but not on CTGY pages (for me) so that is confusing. Is that code the workaround or is there a preferred solution that will work for everybody?

The Miva Support folks seem to have abandoned ship on us for this problem too but I will check with them again. Their suggestion involved creating something about creating alternate pages which doesn't have anything to do with this issue.

[lesliekirk]

Re: Description and Keywords

Not to dog pile onto this but it would have been nice to been able to have broken (beta test) this before it went live. Developers were invited to beta test MM9 before it went live, why not these major releases that have had critical impact on stores?