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    #16
    Re: URI Management and bad links showing up in Google

    I've seen some really weird things happen in Google. For example if a URL structure is "Possible" it can show up in your index. Like a url that is a combination of a short and long URL, http://www.domain.com/product/Catego...duct_Code=CODE. It doesn't matter if the urls actually exist, just that they're possible and return a status 200. Then once you fix your .htaccess rewrites and redirects to prevent them they could all show up as 404's if you don't do it right.

    In this situation I would make sure that /product/&mvt:product:code;.html properly redirects to /&mvt:product:code;.html. It shouldn't return a 404. It should be a 301 redirect.

    Sorry if I'm jibber jabbering or reiterating something that was already mentioned...

    Ron
    Ron Frigon
    Jedi Webmaster Obi-Ron Kenobi

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      #17
      Re: URI Management and bad links showing up in Google

      Hey Ron,

      No worries. I have opened a ticket with support to see if they can glean anything. I was wondering if I needed some sort of redirect to send these wayward links back where they belong. I'm a little skittish of editing the .htaccess file that the new URI Management creates. I'm sure after I've done it a few time I'll feel more comfortable but it's already been noted, if you do it wrong you can toast your site.

      Leslie
      Leslie Kirk
      Miva Certified Developer
      Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
      Previously of Webs Your Way
      (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

      Email me: [email protected]
      www.lesliekirk.com

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        #18
        Re: URI Management and bad links showing up in Google

        Google will scrape everything but that doesn't mean it will make it to their index.

        What you don't want is a bunch of duplicate or thin content links in the Google index.

        If the 404 links are not real urls and they are not linking from somewhere then you could use the request url removal tool.

        IMHO, I wouldn't 301 the phantom links. Just remove them, canonicalize the real uri and Google will figure it out.

        You can always do a Google search for the url with site:www.yourdomain.com or inurl:yourdomain.com/product/ to confirm the bogus uri isn't in their index.

        You may want to add SEMRush to your tool set or Screaming Frog if you are looking to do a deep crawl for all your uri's.

        What you don't want is 3x number of links pointing to your product urls.
        http://www.alphabetsigns.com/

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          #19
          Re: URI Management and bad links showing up in Google

          Miva Support wasn't able to find them but yet Google still says they are there. I have been using a number of link checker tools to try and find where these links are coming from. So it does look like i need to add a rewrite for it. What's going to be the best format for it?

          While on the subject of redirects - I need to add a redirect from an .htm page to a .pdf. I tried this

          Code:
          redirect 301 /IKS_KIT_PG.htm https://www.kitchencabinetdepot.com/specs_pdf/IKS_KIT_PG.pdf
          but it throws a ? at the end of the URL when it redirects which then send it to the NTFD page.

          That leads me to my next question, what's the correct way to add the ErrorDocument 404 redirect? I tried using what the site had before switching to the URI Management and it doesn't seem to be working, I get sent to the NTFD page. This is the first line in the .htaccess file:

          Code:
          ErrorDocument 404 /404-Kitchen-Cabinets.html
          Leslie Kirk
          Miva Certified Developer
          Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
          Previously of Webs Your Way
          (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

          Email me: [email protected]
          www.lesliekirk.com

          Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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            #20
            Re: URI Management and bad links showing up in Google

            Hey Leslie,

            I came across this Google Webmaster Forum post and thought of this thread:

            https://productforums.google.com/for...ng/MMQm9LTZ8pU

            Hope this helps.

            Dan
            http://www.alphabetsigns.com/

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              #21
              Re: URI Management and bad links showing up in Google

              Try something like this for the redirect:

              Code:
              RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/IKS_KIT_PG.htm$ [NC] 
              RewriteRule ^(.*)$ https://www.kitchencabinetdepot.com/specs_pdf/IKS_KIT_PG.pdf [R=301,L]
              As for the ErrorDocument, the way the new URI Management works, any request that is not a physical file or not in the /mm5/ directory will be mapped to URI management and Miva will handle the 404 using the NFTD page.
              Last edited by Brennan; 11-30-15, 09:44 AM.
              Brennan Heyde
              VP Product
              Miva, Inc.
              [email protected]
              https://www.miva.com

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                #22
                Re: URI Management and bad links showing up in Google

                Originally posted by alphabet View Post
                Google will scrape everything but that doesn't mean it will make it to their index.
                I found it!!! Yes, Google will scrape everything and anything. Seems the meta property="og:url" was configured to include the /product/ in the URL.

                Code:
                <mvt:assign name="g.socialURL" value="'http://' $ g.domain:name $ '/' $ l.settings:seo_settings:prod_lit $ l.settings:seo_settings:url_delim $ l.settings:product:code  $ '.' $ l.settings:seo_settings:suffix" />
                Leslie Kirk
                Miva Certified Developer
                Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
                Previously of Webs Your Way
                (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

                Email me: [email protected]
                www.lesliekirk.com

                Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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